THE GLADIATOR

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  Fallacy of Baptism "in Holy Spirit"!

  by The Searcher in

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  the following comment taken from the march 1st 2013 watchtower, is nothing new.

  to witnesses the world over it's a basic teaching which even the kids understand; "humans with heavenly prospects have been baptized in water and with holy spirit and are thus spirit-begotten disciples of jesus.

  " (john 3:3, 5) (both at the same time??????).

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  THE GLADIATOR

  As a JW I got baptized after saying I DO to the following. So I must now be saved.

  ‘Have you repented of your sins and turned around, recognising yourself before Jehovah God as a condemned sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his son Jesus Christ?’

  ‘On the basis of this faith in God and his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening Holy Spirit?’
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  My Story

  by nolongerconfused in

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  well...where do i start.... i was raised in the truth...always knowing that there was nothing better out there besides the wt...however, recently i have a made a determination to not go "anywhere"...in all of my almost 35 years of being part of this "organization" i can honestly say i never read the bible as i do today...my "personal" study of the bible has more meaning today than it ever did...after reading the bible i have found many inconsistencies in the wt organization...i hold no grudges or hard feelings towards anyone in the organization, including the so called governing body...i just believe that human imperfection has taken it's toll on this organization...however, that is no excuse to act as a false prophet or assume things that only belong jehovah and his son...the bible is the truth, and jesus said such truth will set us free...i served as a pioneer all of my youth, and served as a ms...as of today i don't partake in that kind of manmade "service"... i'm truly against monthly time reports, special titles of service, asking for donations, judicial committees, among other things...some people may ask why?...well, none of these things are biblical!...some have told me, well the gb is now the faithful and discreet slave...and i say, as determined by who?...nowhere in my personal reading of the bible does it say that there was or there would ever be a gb...this group of men was self appointed...anything self appointed or self made up is definitely not discreet or faithful...jesus never ever appointed such a group.... a family member of mine passed away 2 years ago...he was never a "witness"...but i did preach to him once in a while so he "knew" about god...he just never wanted to be part of this organization...yet, when he passed away i was told repeatedly by the brothers and resurrection publications that i will see him in paradise... i thought to myself, but jehovah is the only one that determines or says who will resurrect (weather heavenly or earth)...i always thought...we as men are nobody to classify or determine that being part of a certain "organization" is the only way to salvation...jesus never said such thing...yet some may say that jehovah has always used an organization giving an moses and the israelite "organization" as an example...but then i say, well jesus is the end of the old covenant...we don't need an organization to be our mediator between us and the true god...jesus is the only mediator.... i could just say so many other things, but i felt like sharing this with all of you...as i cannot share this with any family members or brothers since i would be considered an apostate...i truly believe god is the only judge and i will hold myself accountable to him and no one else.... thanks for reading.... .

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  THE GLADIATOR

  nolongerconfused

  Welcome to the forum. You certainly have a long road ahead of you. I hope you don’t get lost along the way. Fortunately you seem to have a mind that is open to change and learning. I wish you well.
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  How many went from christian to something else?

  by Satanus in

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  i noticed some posters who used to argue along christian lines, but don't do so, anymore.

  granted, it's a tough line to keep to on this forum.

  i would be interested to hear (read) of people who came here as believers, and then transitioned to unbeliever, and the reasons for that.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  kjg132 Welcome to the forum.

  Yours is is a very fair and balanced view.

  If I were a Christian it is how I would want to be.
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  How many went from christian to something else?

  by Satanus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i noticed some posters who used to argue along christian lines, but don't do so, anymore.

  granted, it's a tough line to keep to on this forum.

  i would be interested to hear (read) of people who came here as believers, and then transitioned to unbeliever, and the reasons for that.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Around 12 years ago I came here using my real name. I had left Jehovah's Witnesses 15 years before that. At the time I was undecided about Christianity and ‘God.’ I now realise that I do not believe in ‘God.’ I do not say ‘God’ does not exist as there are so many opinions on what ‘God’ is and I have no authority to objectively state that ‘God’ does not exist. I simply do not personally believe ‘God’ exists, which is a subjective view.

  Some Christians believe that their belief in ‘God’ is objective because ‘God’ speaks to them. I do not doubt that they believe ‘God’ speaks to them but that can only ever be a subjective and personal experience. My apologies for the repetition of words but I wanted to be clear and avoid ambiguity.
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  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
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  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  You may very well think so but I couldn't possiblt comment. Insanity exists only in the mind.
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  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

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  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  It seems entirely possible that you are a wise man.
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  Is God Truly Omnipotent??

  by Cold Steel in

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  while acknowledging god as the most powerful force in the universe, i wonder if he is omnipotent.

  this thought came to me as i watched an old star trek: tng, where everyone's favorite fictional omnipotent being, q, was featured.. .

  if he is omnipotent, why could he not remove the "bitter cup" of suffering from christ in the garden?

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Logically if God is everywhere than he is also nowhere, which could explain his absence.
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  How Modern Christianity has failed Christians

  by Christ Alone in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've recently been thinking about our culture and how christianity in our western culture has failed to keep up with advancements in science.

  ) churches have let reason sink into the intellectual closet of fundamentalism.

  "feel good" churches seem to be the norm today.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Logic tells me that it is foolish to keep having the same discussion with believers and expect a different result or outcome.
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  Anyone Else See Les Miserables?

  by BizzyBee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to see it today - by myself (mr bee is on a golf junket).

  i was glad that that i was by myself because i cried so much at the end, i wouldn't have wanted to be with anyone who wasn't crying - and that would not have been mr bee!.

  les miserables the current film is adapted from what is considered one of the half-dozen greatest novels of the past 150 years and one of the longest novels ever written.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Saw Les Miserables in London once. We have booked to see the film at a local cinema at 1pm on 13th. I hear that Russell has nothing to Crowe about but shall reserve judgement before deciding if he should stick to playing a gladiator. If you require other information about my leisure activity just ask.
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  Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  by hamsterbait in

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  2. friends

  we all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.

  not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?

  hb.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Re: Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?

  The Watchtower Society has only one god.

  We have many and Simon is top god.